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Two Women Chatting - what is it exactly?!

It's a website and podcast for midlife women and empty nesters.


Join Liz Copping and Michelle Ford embracing the highs and lows of their 'second spring'. We chat to celebrities & experts about relatable topics, redefining midlife, embracing the empty nest and ageing with positivity - down to earth, humorous & imperfect - providing companionship to 'work from homers', in the car, on a walk, in the gym or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Michelle Ford, Podcast Hots Two Women Chatting

We are delighted to announce our partnership with Jane Plan,
the UK's leading weight management system!
Follow (and join in!) Michelle's Jane Plan weight loss journey on our instagram account.  We have a fabulous offer of £50 off new subscriptions for our listeners.   Just use unique code TWC50 at

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Some of our fab guests... including Dame Judie Dench, Louise Minchin, Anthea Turner, Dr Nighat Arif, Judy Murray, Melinda Messenger, Angie Best, Jo Elvin, Rosie Green, Linda Magistris, Lisa Snowden, Jenni Falconer, Lavina Mehta MBE, Gia Mills, Jasmine Birtles, Jenny Seagrove, Carolyn Harris MP, Alice Smellie, Marianne Jones, Katy Hill, Alexandra Potter

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Available wherever you get your podcasts - new episodes on Tuesday every week

"Love the mixture of humour and really fascinating topics. I don't know how Liz and Michelle get such fabulous guests.  Look forward to this every week and have shared with so many friends!"

“Exactly what I need in my Podcast library as I adjust to instant empty nest with twins having just left for college! Looking forward to the next episode!”

"Really appreciate how they chat about subjects that can be awkward or uncomfortable and still manage to do it with humour.  I've learned so much from listening to this podcast when I walk the dog."

“Really feel like I'm part of the conversation and keep wanting to join in! I feel like they're my friends!  Great podcast!

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