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Join Liz and Michelle navigating life over 50 as empty nesters, embracing the highs and lows of their 'second spring'. They chat to celebrities & experts  about relatable topics, redefining midlife, embracing the empty nest and ageing with positivity - down to earth, humorous & imperfect - providing companionship to 'work from homers', in the car, on a walk, in the gym or wherever you listen to podcasts.

Some of our fab guests... including Dame Judie Dench, Anthea Turner, Melinda Messenger, Angie Best, Jo Elvin,, Rosie Green, Linda Magistris, Lisa Snowden, Jenni Falconer, Lavina Mehta MBE, Gia Mills, Jasmine Birtles, Jenny Seagrove, Carolyn Harris MP, Alice Smellie, Katy Hill

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Available on wherever you get your podcasts - new episode every Tuesday

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What People Say

‘Really feel like I’m part of the conversation and keep wanting to join in! Great podcast’

‘This was very nostalgic for me as everything Liz & Michelle talked and laughed about rang true for me when my kids left home (and the country!). They obviously enjoyed recording it too, very professional and natural and I’ll definitely be listening to more.’

‘I’d never even thought about what it was like for my parents after I left home and this hilarious podcast does make you think about it! Their informal approach has me in stitches, highly recommend it!’

‘Great podcast- both fun and honest. Look forward to the next one!’

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